Saturday, 22 June 2013

Who Am I

In Datre 191, among many other transcripts where sleep is mentioned, Datre talks about what is sleep:

..."JOHN; Then she asks; "When we have managed to establish heaven on earth or whatever you would call our current evolution process, will there be the concept of sub- or superconsciousness?"

DATRE; Well, number one, you won't have heaven on earth, because you've got a dichotomy going right there. You have a conception of what hell is like, you have a conception of what heaven is like, you have a conception of what physicality is like, and they're all three different. Then, until you understand what physicality is all about, you will never be able to see physicality as it truly is.

Also, you categorize and split everything. You've got consciousness, unconsciousness, superconsciousness, subconsciousness. There again, the only thing that you missed on that, as long as you're putting everything in categories, the one biggest one that you have, and you don't know anything about, and that's 'sleep'. Because in sleep there is 'knowingness' and there is not a division. Continue."...


http://datretranscripts.blogspot.com/2009/07/datre191.html )


In a conversation, or rather a question-answer session, with Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharsi, in a small book called 'Who Am I', Ramana also talks a little about sleep:


..."What is called ‘mind’ is a wondrous power residing in the Self. It causes all thoughts to arise. Apart from thoughts, there is no such thing as mind. Therefore, thought is the nature of mind. Apart from thoughts, there is no independent entity called the world. In deep sleep there are no thoughts, and there is no world. In the states of waking and dream, there are thoughts, and there is a world also. Just as the spider emits the thread (of the web) out of itself and again withdraws it into itself, likewise the mind projects the world out of itself and again resolves it into itself. When the mind comes out of the Self, the world appears. Therefore, when the world appears (to be real), the Self does not appear; and when the Self appears (shines) the world does not appear."...



Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharsi was a guru, or teacher, to Robert Adams:




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